Well the "Which I guess is the real core issues as to both of you disagreeing about if Ada really is classes as a villian or not :D" and the comment about "She's actually an anti-hero" is what made me reply as I did. It came across like you were saying he was saying she's a hero and i'm saying she's a villain and then you saying 'she's neither, she's an anti-hero'. Which is why i was like 'grrrrr'. Not at you specifically, but, it was more that a few people including CVX have already taken what I've said and made it out like I was saying she's a villain and then your post was kinda like the last straw I guess? My apologies either way if that's not what you meant. But, again, that post was directed as multiple people for making that conclusion, not just you.

And Ada is rather open to interpretation. The only person we've ever seen her actively be kind to and help is Leon. Claire B isn't canon so her tossing claire a launcher is irrelevant as it was simply a gameplay mechanic to get Claire a launcher to kill tyrant with.

The only reason Ada is even 'nice' to Leon is because she fell for him. But, as her epilogue shows and RE4 as well, she refused to let her feelings get in the way of her mission in the future. Which is why she keeps him at arms length in RE4 and although she does help him, she knows where to draw the line and is willing to do what she has to this time unlike RE2.

She draws her gun on Leon twice in the game, takes the plaga sample from him at gunpoint and although she's confident he can survive, she still sets off the timer for the island to blow up with Leon still on it, which is a pretty bastardly thing to do. She also easily betrays both Wesker and Krauser without regard.

She 'fell in love' with John solely to get info about Umbrella and didn't seem to truly care about his death. Only used him as a cover to get the G sample in RE2.

We don't know a lot about her other than what we see, but, Ada is definitely a shady character and there's no telling what she's done in the past or what she would do in the present. For example, if she was looking for a sample of Uroboros in RE5 and ran across Chris/Sheva and they interfered with her plans, there's no telling whether she might try to kill them or not. They're not Leon, she's not involved with them in any capacity. So there's no telling if she'd actively try to kill 'hero's' or not. And with her RE3 epilogue and the way she coldly treated Leon in RE4, it's likely she probably has killed some innocents in her past to complete a mission.

So to consider her a 'hero' is just as ignorant as it would be to consider her a full fledged Villain. She's neither. She's a very grey area character with no particular allegiance. She may have morals but she's not above dirty work either, something a full fledged hero wouldn't do.

But, that's exactly why you can put her on either team and have it work. If they needed another Hero, Ada can be put on the Heroes team and work. When they need an extra villain like they did, she can be put on Villains team and work.

Again, she's a spy. She plays for both sides equally to further her own agenda. She's not biased and not above dirty work.


But, all of that is what makes Ada so interesting to begin with. The simple fact she's NOT a cut and dry goody two shoes and there's a lot of mystery surrounding what her agenda is, what her organization is after, who she works for in general, and where her true allegiances lie. That 'gray area' character who is neither hero nor villain but a little of both is exactly what makes her the interesting and stylish character that she is.

Hmm, I still think it counts toward Ada's characterization... For what it's worth.

Just like the scene in Claire B in which Sherry meets Annette, and shows us that Annette wasn't a completely evil woman. It never technically happened (unless you believe there's a scenario mix), but it's still a good scene for the series.

I'm more concerned with the fact that she has a medic class in heroes vs. villains mode, WTF? I assume they just had to squeeze in the classes for the existing characters though, and that she was the best option (although I personally agree). Claire and field scientist is pretty odd too.

@cvx The annette scene is an actual scene giving depth to her character. The ada thing is directly ripped from Leon B with no changes in what she says or does. Again its a gameplay mechanic to get claire the launcher. Nothing more.

A better argument is Adas death scene in Leon A. Its not canon but is good characterization for her that is able to be taken towards understanding her even if that's not how it happened. Her tossing the launcher to claire though as stated, exact same scene and dialogue ripped from Leon B. Copy Pasta like that is for gameplay reasons not characterization.

@Eowen Ada isn't a medic. She's a hybrid assault/medic. All heroes and villains are hybrids. Claire is medic/field scientist. Carlos is Demolition/Assault etc.

They have half abilities from one class and half from another.

Ada being a medic/assault is surprising on par with her dual versatile nature.

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There you go with your selective use of use of the story again. :)

Ada is a spy, so shouldn't she be recon? Does not compute.

I understand how you may see it that way but I'm not. Again, its ripped directly from Leon B. There's nothing about it that does anything new for Ada. Claire has to fight tyrant just like Leon and needs the launcher. Same scene, same battle etc.

The fact claire B isn't canon only makes it even less relevant is all I'm saying.

But, even if you did want to try and use her giving claire the launcher as characterization, she's still only doing it by proxy to leon since claire and leon are working together. So what I said about her still holds true.

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Eh, even if it's not canon, I still think that was awfully nice of her. :)

Look at it this way: if it WAS canon, which totally could have happened, then would Ada have done it anyway? I say yes.

Er yes, I acknowledged that. But only as a proxy to Leon, as I said....

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How did she know Claire was working with Leon? And how do you know that she wouldn't have done it for some other innocent person? All signs point to her doing so.