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 Post subject: Re: Dead Rising 2
PostPosted: Oct 23, 2010 12:24 
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More reason to back up my argument of why they bothered with a PS3 version in the first place when the first one was an exclusive and the game was clearly made for the 360...

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because 360 sucks


PS3 fanboyism much? No, it doesn't. Nor does the PS3, however the 360 has a better collection of games by far imo and multiplatform games ALWAYS look and play better on the 360 from my experience.. :P PS3 is only good for it's stand alone titles, but none of those interest me thus I don't have one.

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By that logic (or lack thereof), RE and DMC should've remained on Sony consoles (the PS3 had the PS1 games on PSN too). It's business, and despite the issues, it seems that both versions are selling equally well.

Budgets are $20+ million for games, not including marketing costs, so publishers need compelling reasons (read: financial backing) to stick to one platform.


But RE5 looked and played better on the 360 as well...

It's just the way I think, if they can't make a decent port, then most of the time they either shouldn't bother, or they should postpone the port till they get it right.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Rising 2
PostPosted: Oct 23, 2010 13:51 
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FoxyAreku wrote:
fredo1990 wrote:
FoxyAreku wrote:
More reason to back up my argument of why they bothered with a PS3 version in the first place when the first one was an exclusive and the game was clearly made for the 360...

Silly capcom.


because 360 sucks


PS3 fanboyism much? No, it doesn't. Nor does the PS3, however the 360 has a better collection of games by far imo and multiplatform games ALWAYS look and play better on the 360 from my experience.. :P PS3 is only good for it's stand alone titles, but none of those interest me thus I don't have one.


Anyone who calls someone else a fanboy is usually a fanboy themselves. :razz: jk
360 doesn't have a better collection of games, nor the PS3, most of the games are multiplatform and the rest is down to personal taste and requirements, stuff like: PS1 classics+PSN games vs XBLA, Gold subscription required to play online but more features vs free online play but less features, 360 third party exclusives vs PS3 first party exclusives, XBL avatars vs PS Home... and so on.

About multiplatform games being always better on 360, you're wrong, usually not always! games that got PS3 as its lead platform look or play slightly better on PS3, stuff like FFXIII, Burnout, Tekken 6, Vanquish, Medal Of Honor, Castlevania Lords Of Shadow.
Now that the PS3’s install base is more significant, day after day more developers starts creating games on PS3 and then porting them to other platforms.

And what's youre experience? As far as I know you don't own a PS3 =P


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 Post subject: Re: Dead Rising 2
PostPosted: Oct 23, 2010 15:50 
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Meanwhile RE5, Bayonetta, Dead Rising 2, Orange Box, etc all play and look better on a 360. And that's just the games off the top of my head, so we can say it's even.

The 360 has more original games on it's online marketplace than PSN does though.

And I have friends that have PS3's, I also pay attention to current releases. =P

I was just pointing out that anyone who says the 360 sucks hasn't done research or is a blatant fanboy, I get all my facts straight. Which is why I said neither console sucks in the least.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Rising 2
PostPosted: Oct 23, 2010 16:33 
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Vito wrote:
mmm strange :confused: i had ZERO problems with my copy of dead rising 2 for the ps3.


Most of it happened during co-op, and they're random enough that you may not experience them :smile:



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But RE5 looked and played better on the 360 as well...


And it sold tangibly better on the PS3 due to PAL and JPN sales. The differences in visuals were minor, and mostly due to Nividia's AA solution. In a couple of cases like audio and image consistency, the PS3 was better (no tearing). The frame rate was more stable and textures weren't blurred due to AA on the 360, and yeah, it was the better version.

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It's just the way I think, if they can't make a decent port, then most of the time they either shouldn't bother, or they should postpone the port till they get it right.


Again, it's business. Why would a publisher forfeit a significant chunk of revenue? In the most extreme case to date, being Bayonetta, the game ended up selling better on the PS3 too. Development costs aren't miniscule to scrap a version because parity wasn't achieved.


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 Post subject: Re: Dead Rising 2
PostPosted: Oct 23, 2010 19:34 
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I'm done with this game. It crashed a couple of times, in addition to two incidents were odd loud static (think CRT without any signal) popped up too. The second one required rebooting too! Ugh...

I really enjoyed the co-op sessions (I was bedridden too), but the PS3 version in particular needed a few more months of development if they missed these bugs.

Sorry Rombie, I won't be able to do co-op again. Should give RDR's Undead Nightmares a go when the standalone disc comes out.


Ah, nuts. I was going to see if you wanted to join me this weekend sometime on a new-game in co-op so that I could do a run for the co-op Case trophy. Nevermind, I'll find someone else :)

I had the game lock up on me once fully and crash out to a standby mode. And I've had that loud static thing once as well. So I can understand. It just hasn't been a deal breaker for me yet.

Foxy - Fair call on Bayonetta, but RE5 and DR2 are negligible depending on how picky you are about certain things, and I think Orange Box is a bit of a hard call. EA had to handle that themselves with little to no help from Valve... I think all things considered that's not that bad considering what normally happens when a Dev walks away from a port. Also the PS3 is getting the better deal with Portal 2 anyhow on the flipside of that.

We seemingly are getting better and more consistent titles across platforms these days, which is what I guess really makes the bug issues in DR2 all that more annoying. Yet even if I only had a 360 and was playing DR2 on that, I still wouldn't want anyone with just a PS3 to miss out on it. 360 version is fine, it didn't need extra time that a lack of a PS3 version would have given.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Rising 2
PostPosted: Oct 24, 2010 17:13 
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.. RE5 and DR2 are negligible depending on how picky you are about certain things..


I guess so, but the differences with RE5 were paltry and the PS3 had a couple of area that the game performed better. Just about the only major differences is the lack of some particles in one crash scene, the body of water at the beginning of the swamp area and the frame rate in some areas (the assembly being the main one).

DR2 on the other hand.. I guess the only PS3 plus is the variety of surround sound options.

Bayonetta ironically for a game released in 2009, was the worst port ever.


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 Post subject: Re: Dead Rising 2
PostPosted: Oct 24, 2010 21:39 
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Meanwhile RE5, Bayonetta, Dead Rising 2, Orange Box, etc all play and look better on a 360. And that's just the games off the top of my head, so we can say it's even.

The 360 has more original games on it's online marketplace than PSN does though.

And I have friends that have PS3's, I also pay attention to current releases. =P

I was just pointing out that anyone who says the 360 sucks hasn't done research or is a blatant fanboy, I get all my facts straight. Which is why I said neither console sucks in the least.


sorry to say but as far as ive seen and played RE5 and DR2 were better on the PS3, besides the few things that SG79 alredy said which the only thing i havent experienced is the frame rate issue, and online marketplace games dont count as being actual games to me, so PS3 still has more original games


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 Post subject: Re: Dead Rising 2
PostPosted: Oct 25, 2010 19:51 
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SG79 wrote:
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.. RE5 and DR2 are negligible depending on how picky you are about certain things..


I guess so, but the differences with RE5 were paltry and the PS3 had a couple of area that the game performed better. Just about the only major differences is the lack of some particles in one crash scene, the body of water at the beginning of the swamp area and the frame rate in some areas (the assembly being the main one).

DR2 on the other hand.. I guess the only PS3 plus is the variety of surround sound options.

Bayonetta ironically for a game released in 2009, was the worst port ever.


You know that's exactly what I mean though, someone like you who's more technically geared to the differences will notice differences and when there are bugs be more prone to the frustration of how they could let it slip by. The average consumer might be annoyed by the bugs, but most tend to blindly play on because they don't know any difference and just expect this is the way the game is.

Bayonetta put the whole parity becoming closer back like several steps, but then again differences between stuff like DR2 and even Red Dead haven't exactly helped either. Outside of something like Vanquish, the next game that should be on track with both consoles is Star Wars Force Unleashed II from all accounts.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Rising 2
PostPosted: Oct 25, 2010 22:13 
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Fair enough, and I suppose bugs were a sticking point for me, as was tearing to an extent when the running speed was slower. It didn't help that I still like the original better. RDR on the other hand didn't bother me because performance was largely similar, and the PS3 had its own perks (including exclusive content) including some content that balanced things out for me. Unless you read the DF feature, which was pretty much one sided, then again, bias reared its ugly head often then (compare the Bayonetta and FFXIII comparisons).


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 Post subject: Re: Dead Rising 2
PostPosted: Oct 29, 2010 13:29 
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Anyone trying to say 'so and so console sucks' is just plain and simply an idiot. Both Xbox 360 and PS3 as well as Xbox Live and PSN have their EQUAL number of Pros and Cons as well as equal number of good and crappy ports as well as good and crappy exclusives.

It all comes down to personal preferences and nothing more. I leaned for a 360 over a PS3 simply because it had more games 'I' wanted to play than the PS3 did, yet another might lean to a PS3 for the same reason.

So just play and enjoy your console and shut up about trying to demean someone elses to try and act trendy and cool. No one cares.

On topic, I got DR2 from gamefly finally and have been playing it. It's fun and I certainly like it more than part 1 in most respects, and Chuck is far more interesting than Frank to me personally. But, the game itself just feels too much of the same old same old. The settings and gameplay are very redundant of DR1. Some new tweaks, but, all in all, it feels like a retread of the first game through and through.

Still a fun game, just wish it was a little more diverse is all. I haven't even had time to really 'explore' yet because I'm constantly juggling cases and survivors every second because I don't want them to expire and miss out on a psychopath or survivor or something and have to redo it.

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